Cimarron Uruguayo
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Cimarron Uruguayo in Europe – please no more HD!

After I wrote my last, very critical article about the Fila Sao Miguels health, I can’t hold it back much longer to write a similar one about the other dog breed I love so much, the Cimarrón Uruguayo. I have to admit, that I am new to this breed and not so much of an expert. But by simply comparing the facts, you don’t need to be an expert so see what is going on, or where the trend might go. Also, I just want to write down to all the „haters“: my dogs aren’t perfect eather, but healthy. Also, I pick my friends myself and don’t care if I get blocked from your Facebook-profiles. I have other goals in my life, than having many Facebook friends and beeing loved by everyone 😉

The Cimarron Uruguayo is a very rare, but special breed in Europe. Breeders and owners have the same high responsibility to not „ruin“ the breed by bad reputation, like uneducated and not socialized dogs or ill-breeding.

But since this is such a rare breed, I can imagine it’s not easy to mate two dogs with equally good health and character. It is risky to acquire a puppy, because you can never know how it will develop during the next 2 years, until it is old enough for breeding. Will it have a good character? Will it stay healthy, or develop allergies or hip dysplasia? You can never see in the future. In my opinion, if the dog is not healthy, you should still not use it to reproduce, even if you waited such a long time (everybody knows that there are no perfect dogs!). But unfortunately there are many people who think different. It is a risk by buying a puppy and if you still want to breed, you should maybe get another one (adult with health certificate?) or find other solutions, like co-working with other breeders.

The Cimarron in Europe

I’m no professional, but the number of litters in Europe is countable: there were 2 in Germany, 3 in Sweden, 3 in the Netherlands, 5 in France (or more, not quite sure here), 2 in Czech Republic, and in Hungary (not sure about the number of litters). In total that makes around 15 litters in Europe since 2010 (or maybe more I didn’t know about). Some of the litters are made by the offspring of the first litters in Europe, so it happens that quite a lot of these dogs are related to each other. Based on these numbers, everybody can imagine it is hard to avoid inbreeding, since the import of new lines from Uruguay is expensive and not so easy. Also there is a lot of responsibility to the breeder and the owners to introduce this rare breed to the countries and the society.

So why am I writing these lines?

It happens, that some breeders just close their eyes to health-issues or anything at all. I won’t call any name here, but if you wish to buy a Cimarron, please make sure the breeder hands in the health certifcate, especially the HD-results. The HD-results are classified in five grades by the FCI. Here is a paper which explains everything in detail, but let’s keep it short:

HD-A – No signs of Hip Dysplasia
HD-B – Near normal hip joints
HD-C – Mild hip dysplasia
HD-D – Moderate hip dysplasia
HD-E – Severe Hip Dysplasia

In Germany and in other countries it is only allowed to breed with HD-A, HD-B and HD-C, but HD-C is a clear borderline and everything below is not allowed by the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act, the (German) Kennel Club and any ethical behaviour of a reasonable breeder.

The owner of the Facebook-site of Cimarron Uruguayo in Europe tries to fetch the dysplasia data of the imported and new born dogs in Europe. Of course, not every offspring has official HD results (yet?!), but at least the dogs used for breeding should have.

Case 1 – two litters with HD-C/D

The website shows that this breeder has a lot of passion and love for the Cimarron. The website of this breeder doesn’t show the HD results of the female, which happend to have 2 litters already. It only tells, that there is an official HD test, but no result. Only the page CU in Europe tells us the result.

I wonder, if the puppy buyers ask for the official result? Probably not. I wonder if the breeder tells the result witout being asked? Probably not.

When I wrote the breeder a long time ago, following argument was used: „[…] hip dysplasia can be cured by operation.“

Well congratulations puppy-buyer! You didn’t only buy a beautiful pup from a loving home, but also a subscriptions about several hundreds (thousands!) of € at your veterinary! Not to mention the physical pain of your dog and your mental distress!

Why would anybody breed dogs, while fully conscious that the possibility of them having a hereditary disease? Sick.

Case 2 – two litters with HD-D and one litter with a female too young

This „breeder“ is the main reason for my article. Seeing what is going on there, makes me sick. The person owns 3 Cimarrones, one male and two females. One of the females has HD-D. Nobody knows about the results of the other two dogs. The „breeder“ had/has 3 or (already) 4 litters (2 with each female and the same male): one female was bred during her first heat (less than one year old!), apperently it was an „accident“. The same female has puppies again right now. The other female has HD-D. She used to live at another breeders place, but since he wouldn’t use her for breeding (due to her dysplasia!), he looked for a new home. The „loving new home“ used the female already twice and had two litters with her. In an internet advertisement the pups are sold „with paper“ and as „first pups of the female“.

Criticism and questions aren’t allowed here again. The pedigree papers will probably self printed at home, since this person already lies about the amount of litters, although there are plenty of pictures in the internet with the last offspring and the two females, on which you can tell they already had puppies.

Congratulations again dear puppy buyer! A „breeder“ who is in the need to lie, might have other disturbing secrets. Also, don’t forget about the marvellous dysplasia your dog might have!

Why would anybody breed dogs, while fully conscious that the possibility of them having a hereditary disease? Sick.

More transparency for buyers and breeders

Acquiring a dog reminds me of buying a car: you need a checklist and bulletproof contract, still the car dealer will try to rip you off.
There will always be someone to buy a puppy without asking and it is impossible to check on everything.

I myself did oversee things when I bought my dog and I can tell, that these mistakes won’t happen again. But I know how hard it is as a buyer and that there is no transparency for you at all. The kennel clubs don’t provide you with a list with all the (good and bad) data they are collecting anyway. You need to have the knowledge of a professional, which is almost impossible for a regular person.

Why isn’t there more transparency for everybody? And why can’t breeders share their knowledge and insights concerning this rare breed with the other breeders, so everybody would benefit? Nobody will lose this way. Why do (dog) breeders hate each other if they criticize some practices, why can’t they work together? Nobody wants diseased dogs! There is a HD-register of the Kennel Club in Uruguay. This is a good idea and good base to start with. Keep this work going also in Europe!

Push the breeders, think twice.

Ask twice, let them give you any test results they have. Let them show you how they handle their dogs, work them, how they live and what they feed them. Where will the puppies grow up in the first weeks of their life? Who are the parents and ancestors in the pedigree, of what did they die? Why is the breeder actually using these dogs for his litter, what does he hope to achieve? If it sounds fishy to you, you should not buy from this breeder, or you should do more research about him or his dogs. There will be plenty of litters in the future, so there i no need to rush.

You can’t lose. You can only benefit.

Please work together and not against each other. Please don’t work against the animals, by ignoring natural and ethical laws.

Thank you.

Thank you for reading so far. I’m looking forward to discuss with you in any language (Deutsch, français, português, english), leave a comment or write me a message or discuss on Facebook. Many thanks to those who shared their stories with me and gave me insights. Last but not least, thanks to all those breeders and passionates who try the best to make a difference. Feel free to share this article anywhere to reach the maximum of readers.

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  1. Hi. I bought my CU from Hungary. She was 6 months old when she was put to sleep. Very bad demodex 🙁 She didn`t respond to different treatments what we tried.
    I asked if breeder wants to give replacement puppy (from other breed, because breeder has only 2 CU and there is no point to buy other puppy from same mother) because I think 6 months is pretty short life and lot of money though.. well, breeder just stop answering me anymore.

  2. Dear Cécile,
    thank you so much for your open-hearted lines on CU breeds. I just think like you. We took much effort in finding our new baby (Paco – CU Semper Fi) after we lost our previous dog (a Flat Coated Retriever) to cancer plus hip displasia at the age of merely 5 years.
    Too much sorrow and pain is created by negligence and profit-oriented reckless breeders.
    I’d love to stay in contact with you and read more about your thoughts.

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